Original Air Date: September 28, 2017
Hear Carson-Newman University as they discuss their 100%* Online RN to BSN degree completion program (not including practicum). Featuring guest speaker, Program Director Sue McBee, who will provide an overview of the Online RN-BSN program, and discuss the impact of ethics-based leadership, evidence-based practice and patient advocacy in nursing practice.
- Moderator, Ligia Popescu
- Guest Speaker, C-N Online RN-BSN Program Director Sue McBee
- Student Success Advisor, Amy Skelton
- Senior Enrollment Advisor, Riley Sellers
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00:06 Ligia Popescu: Thanks for joining us today for our live webinar about the 100% online RN to BSN degree completion program, not including clinicals, perfected by the School of Nursing at Carson-Newman University online. Thanks for taking time out of your day to join us. My name is Ligia Popescu, and I will be your host today. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you to please refresh your browsers and turn up the volume on your computer or device to hear the audio. If you're having technical difficulties or have questions, please type them into the Q and A box and hit send.
00:50 Ligia Popescu: Here's a quick look at what we'll be covering. First, we'll hear from... Well, we're planning to hear from Sue McBee. We're having a little bit of difficulty connecting with her. So, we're going to go ahead and get started and I'll introduce her once she joins us. We are going to present to you an overview of Carson-Newman University, the School of Nursing, and the online RN to BSN degree program. Student Success Coach Amy Skelton will talk about the supported online learning experience and what that means for you, followed by enrollment advisor Riley Sellers who will give an overview of the program requirements for admissions, talk about the admissions process, and review some important dates and deadlines. We will end with a Q and A session. If you have any general questions about the program, please enter it into the Q and A box and we're going to answer as many as time allows.
01:47 Ligia Popescu: Now, let's begin. Sue, unfortunately is not able... Well, she's not joined us yet, so we're going to get back to Sue once she joins us. But I'm going to give you an overview of the University's School of Nursing and the program. So, Carson-Newman University was founded in 1851, it's a nationally ranked liberal arts university. It offers an online personal learning environment that connects you to fellow students, faculty and staff, and it's a learning experience like no other. Faith and learning are combined to create an evidence-based practice RN to BSN Nursing Program. And it's designed to transform you into a both professional caregiver, as well as a community leader. Student's Online Program, the student-centered curriculum that Carson-Newman provides is a life changing education where Carson-Newman students come first.
02:50 Ligia Popescu: The BSN Program is fully accredited by the Commission of Collegiate Nursing Education and approved by the Tennessee Board of Education. The School of Nursing actually has 12 full time faculty, six of which are doctoral prepared and six of which are masters prepared. The curriculum features a rigorous nursing curriculum that includes academic and clinical requirements. And students who receive a degree in Nursing actually have been exposed to the skills and knowledge necessary to attain licensure to perform clinical tasks normally expected of Registered Nurses.
03:37 Ligia Popescu: So, here's an overview of the program. Carson-Newman online, the RSN to BSN program prepares registered nurses to become more complete and autonomous caregivers. Carson-Newman had been nationally recognized by the top 10 baccalaureate colleges in the nation by Washington Monthly. And in 2017, US News and World Report named Carson-Newman as a great school at a great price and it's the leading institution for undergraduate teaching in the south in 2016. The RN to BSN program is 120 total units, 30 of which are the credits you're going to receive through your previous RN education and training, 59 units will be Liberal Arts requirements which some of you will have from your previous education as well as the 31 units of a nursing nature, which includes two electives.
04:45 Ligia Popescu: So, some highlights, the Carson-Newman Online RN to BSN prepares registered nurses to become more complete and autonomous caregivers, as I mentioned. It prepares students to learn to employ evidence-based practice, critical thinking, ethics, advocacy, and the principles of service and leadership to improve patient outcomes, community health and of course the nursing practice. The online RN to BSN prepares RNs for the next step in their practice and allows most RNs to qualify for advancement opportunities that would otherwise be unavailable for them with just an ADN. Here's a little bit of our breakdown for the curriculum. You'll see some Liberal Arts requirements there, communications, lab science, Psychology, and Sociology briefly. You have a variety of options that you can use to transfer in for those requirements. We have two Liberal Arts core requirements, some Math requirements, and of course religious requirements all listed there. And then you can see the Nursing core plus the Nursing elective.
06:01 Ligia Popescu: And I want to highlight in the nursing core, some interesting courses that are offered here, is the Community Health Nursing class as well as the Dimensions of Professional Nursing, Healthcare for the Elderly, Healthcare Ethics, and Professional Synthesis for the RN. Carson-Newman offers a community clinical experience as part of their curriculum. It's an opportunity to develop professionally, something that we offer to our students and is part of our accreditation requirements. Students' professional experience and education is considered before placement into a clinical practicum environment. It can be completed in your local community, and there are potential opportunities for you to travel with the campus students to various places around the world to provide support. An example is in 2015, there was two trips, one to Haiti and one to Dominican Republic. During the trip to the Dominican Republic, they worked to provide healthcare clinics in the area, and then when they were in Haiti, they worked to set up health clinics at various local prisons, so that was an interesting experience, too.
07:41 Ligia Popescu: So, these events, these tours to different places around the world happen every year, sometimes twice a year, and online students have the opportunity to participate if they wish, it's not a requirement, but it's something you may want to consider as an elective. Of course, there's many benefits to education, but let's talk about why it's important for an RN to get a BSN degree.
08:19 Ligia Popescu: First of all, it's a requirement, and the American Nurses Association recommends that all RNs are required to get their BSN within 10 years of their original licensure. So those RNs out there that are coming up close to that deadline, this is the time to start thinking about which BSN you're going to choose. Of course, magnet hospitals are recognized for their excellence mostly because of the high level of education their nurses have, and that includes the BSN degree. A BSN will open up opportunities for you to move into a leadership role or a management position. Of course, a BSN is a must for any higher earning nursing professionals. Mostly meaning those who can diagnose and treat illnesses.
09:17 Ligia Popescu: A nurse with a BSN, of course, can help reduce the cost of the facilities, just by improved practices and the most important, I would say is improved patient outcomes. And as you can see, there's a study that shows that with just a 10% increase in the BSN population of hospital facility nurses, it results in a 5% decrease in patient mortality. That's a huge impact. Speaking of impact, let's talk about how the degree helps to prepare graduates for the world of professional nursing.
10:02 Ligia Popescu: Carson-Newman prepares graduates to conduct detailed patient assessments, identify key issues and treatment options, establish and communicate priorities with of course, the patient and the staff at the hospital, conduct necessary interventions, determine outcomes and evaluate results, and utilize the knowledge of pathophysiology and pharmacology in their practice. Graduates of the program are proactive, they're highly competent and able to use evidence-based practice to solve problems and make decisions about patient care. A complete RN can improve overall patient outcomes just by asking the right questions and treating the whole person and not just the symptoms. This holistic approach to nursing has the power of change lives of patients as well as your nursing career.
11:00 Ligia Popescu: So, what is the impact on nursing practice? A BSN will expand your leadership competencies. That means you're going to have better decision-making in your professional practice. You're going to be able to influence the quality of care and of course, the patient safety in the workplace and professional ethics, how to practice professional ethics in a diverse healthcare setting. And evidence-based practice is very important to evaluate scientific evidence and translate research into current best practices. It helps to improve quality and transform healthcare to be more safe, efficient, and effective, which is what we all want. It helps to improve outcomes of individuals, families, and communities. As a BSN, you'll be able to improve the patient outcomes, so you'll be able to positively influence the outcome of your nursing practice on a patient.
12:08 Ligia Popescu: The nursing curriculum at Carson-Newman actually covers a broad spectrum of most importantly, The Community Health Nursing course, the Healthcare Ethics course, and the Leadership and Management for the RN course is very interesting. Also, the BSN is a gateway to the MSN degree which helps position you as a Nurse Practitioner, Nurse Educator and Emergency Room Nurse and Anesthesiologist. I believe we have Sue McBee on the line. Let me just check. Sue are you on the line?
12:54 Ligia Popescu: Sue's going to be joining us. Just a second. She's here, we just need to get her on the phone. In the meantime, I wanted to mention the profession development aspect. You are going to get this hands-on learning opportunity with this clinical practicum that will serve to boost your nursing portfolio.
13:24 Ligia Popescu: Thank you for joining us today, everyone this is Sue McBee the Program Director of the online RN to BSN Program at Carson-Newman. We have already gone through some of this information Sue, but I'm going to go back a couple slides to give you a proper introduction. Give me a second. Okay. Please share a little bit about your background with our audience today, if you don't mind.
13:58 Sue McBee: Okay. Thank you so much for your patience. I had a little problem getting on and then I was muted for a while and I could hear you but you couldn't hear me. Anyway, we're good to go and I'm excited to be a guest panelist today. A little bit about myself, I am a 40 year plus RN. Started out with a diploma in Nursing from St. Mary's School of Nursing in Knoxville, Tennessee. Graduated in '74. So that tells you a little bit. Then I went on and got my BSN at East Tennessee State University and then my masters at the University of Tennessee.
14:32 Sue McBee: My interests lie in really serving in the culture of poverty, regarding nursing I do a lot of local and global healthcare for people who have limited resources so to speak. I do have a lot of background in other areas too. I have worked in critical care. I've worked in the Emergency Room. I have a lot of clinical experience in various sundry places. Again, many times being able to deal with people who have a lot of difficulties in life and hopefully able to help them there. I've been at Carson-Newman for 23 years and been a Nurse Educator for almost 30 years along with doing clinical practice.
15:18 Ligia Popescu Thank you. I've already given an overview of the Carson-Newman University and the School of Nursing. If you don't mind, I'd like you to just talk to us about the online program. Here's the highlights slide. Just give us an overview of the program.
15:41 Sue McBee Okay. Well I will tell you we had an on-ground BSN completion program several years ago. We saw that because of changes in healthcare and the Institute of Medicine report that we're moving more to more BSNs in the communities. And so therefore we knew that probably for our adult learners online is going to be the best fit. It would be very difficult for everybody especially working full time to go school full time. We developed our online program with the idea that associate degree nurses are nurses. We looked at our course work and we looked at the courses that they should have some educational preparation like health assessment, pharmacology and those kinds of things.
16:26 Sue McBee: We wanted to give students credits for what they did know from associate degree nursing programs. And so, we kind of crafted our program to look at for example, Health Assessment for RNs. With that course or with Pharmacology for RNs the student will get information on, this is what we expect you to know coming in to this because you're an associate degree nurse, and then we're going to build on that to help you get to the knowledge and skill level of the Bachelor's prepared nurse. And so, we kind of look at that may be a little more creative than maybe some programs do but certainly our outcomes are that this student, after they go through the nursing program online, that they are able to practice and have the knowledge and skill level of the BSN nurse.
17:11 Ligia Popescu: Thank you. Can you talk to us a little bit more about the clinical experience for online students and what the opportunities are for them?
17:21 Sue McBee: Certainly. We have two courses that actually have a clinical component. And again, it goes back to that those are opportunities that weren't involved in associate degree nursing education. One of them is Community Health which is my background for the most part. We want students in our online program also to get the experiences out in the community so they can understand the community component of how you would even work with clients in the hospital. They're going to be discharged back out into the community so the more you understand about community resources and how to work with populations of people, the better you can take care of patients regardless of where you are.
18:01 Sue McBee So, school health, home health, public health, and then again, Carson-Newman, I'm sure you've already mentioned, and I actually heard most of what you said, is a faith-based university. And so, we're really, we work at servant leadership, we work at trying to work with people who have limited resources, like those in the culture of poverty. So, we have several clinical experiences that are going to be in some of those areas, as well. As along again, with public health, home health, school health, and those kinds of community nursing-based care provisions.
18:34 Sue McBee: Now, the second clinical that they have is relative to nursing, what we call a Nursing 422 Professional Synthesis for the registered nurse. And actually, this is our capstone course for the program. So, when they complete all the nursing courses, this will be the last one. It follows leadership, for the most part. And what we do in that, is the student actually sets with the instructor, goals and objective to achieve, trying to pull in all that they've learned in this program, and then apply that, maybe even into clinical experiences. And it's very student specific driven.
19:09 Sue McBee: So, individual student will work with an instructor on how they're going to achieve this particular clinical experience. And for example, we had one student who worked in a cardiovascular lab, and there were some concerns that this particular nurse had relative to that area, and wanted to look at some strategies to use that might influence better patient care. And so, was able to actually set some goals, and work through that process in that department, and actual policy changes did occur from that experience. So, we're looking at some of those outcomes of changing clinical experiences for the student, and for the areas, to a higher level of care through the student's educational experience.
19:58 Ligia Popescu: Thank you. So, I wanted you to just talk a little bit about what the benefits are of earning a BSN for those RN nurses out there that are on the fence.
20:16 Sue McBee: Okay, well for sure, because of changes in healthcare and again, a lot of information's come out that's been very suggestive that with more BSN prepared nurses on the unit, you have less client complications, and they tend to do better. And a part of that has to be the knowledge-base. Certainly, there are things that are going into much more detail in a baccalaureate program, than an associate degree program. So, things like pathophysiology, I usually tell students you've got to understand that that pathophysiology helps you predict the potential possibilities, before they ever happen. And so, early intervention makes a big difference in complications for clients. That's just one example. And so obviously, a higher-level knowledge of health assessments, and pharmacology, it's just very different.
21:04 Sue McBee: There is that basic health assessment that we do on all our patients, but at the baccalaureate level you learn a more in-depth assessment for each system. So therefore, if your client has a, say cardiovascular issue, then you will learn a more depth of knowledge about assessing those clients, than just your brief overview of when you actually assumed care for that client. So, it's just a... It goes into more depth of knowledge. And then obviously, skill development, when it comes to the BSN level practitioner, and again, that's shown in research, to really improve outcomes of clients. And again, I believe it's the early interventions, and providing that knowledge level of knowing when to intervene before something bad actually happens.
21:49 Sue McBee: And it's not that associate degree nurses don't do that. Many of them are very... They've learned a whole lot of things through their experiences, but we want to make sure that they have the BSN level. Certainly, in our area, and I believe from what I've read nationwide, we are seeing more hospitals that are trying to get what we call magnet status, which is a quality care kind of status, that they want people in the community to know, "We are the hospital with magnet status. We provide really quality care to these clients." Many of them are looking at we've got to have at least 80%, and that again, from the IOM Report, 80% BSN prepared nurses. So, a lot of people are having to go back to school to keep their positions, and a lot of people are getting hired early on with BSNs over the ADN nurse, in the area that we work at.
22:37 Sue McBee: So, I would imagine you're going to see this in a lot of areas, as well. And of course, then the other part of that, and we see this so much more now, than what I've ever seen in my history as a nurse educator, we have a lot of students who want to go get their Masters, and be a nurse practitioner. And so, the BSN is kind of a stepping stone for that, as well. So, we, for a lot of different reasons, it's really a good idea. Especially if you're looking at advanced practice, like family nurse practitioner, or maybe some nurse midwifery, whatever it may be, or just to actually provide more quality care on the unit. Getting a BSN certainly, is going to be, have a huge impact hopefully in the future, on patient care.
23:18 Ligia Popescu: Thank you. I also want to mention at this point, that there is an online MSN slated to go live in 2018. So, that will be a nice complement to the online RN to BSN degree.
23:33 Sue McBee: Yes, that would be true. And when we looked at this program, and tried to decide and determine what we needed to include in coursework, and all of that, we want to prepare nurse leaders. We want to prepare people for graduate education. We want to make sure that people practice, or at least have the skills and knowledge level to practice at that BSN level. So, we were thinking of all those things, as we began developing our coursework and again, what we look at is our BSN on-ground program. The expectation is the same. Like my community health class.
24:10 Sue McBee: They have the same exact everything, clinicals and everything our online students have, as our on-ground students have because that's the BSN level. There's no reason to make a change in it. The only exception would be if the ADN, if they have some experience, they've had some home health experience, or maybe been at the public health department as an ADN, then I send them the objectives for that particular clinical and if they can answer those objectives based on their experience, I can give them some clinical credit for that. We're not wanting to be redundant, we're wanting to build on what they know.
24:42 Ligia Popescu: Right. Okay, so I went over the career impact in the, of what of graduates of the program, so and I believe you touched on this also. The necessary interventions and being able to establish priorities with a patient and the rest of the staff or about the patient and key treatment options. Can you tell me more about what you're shooting for with the education of your RNs? When they graduate what are they?
25:17 Sue McBee: Well, when they graduate they have a diploma saying that they are a BSN level nurse. They have a baccalaureate in nursing. And so therefore again, our focus is that we prepare students to practice at that level. When you look at nursing as a whole, you've got your LPN level, then you've got your ADN level and you've got your BSN level, and then obviously your Master's prepared level and then move on up to Doctoral prepared level. Those are different levels of nursing. There's different educational preparations for those. And obviously the higher you go, the more knowledge and skill level you should have to practice and care for patients and people in the community. Again, my community background comes out a lot because I don't look at just individuals. I look at families and communities, populations of people that all need... We're always trying to decrease risks and provide resources and education to get them to a better level of health, if you will.
26:21 Ligia Popescu: Anything you want to talk about or add about the impact on nursing practice of a BSN degree?
26:27 Sue McBee: Well, obviously, again, based on the reports that's been researched, there is an impact. There's a quality that is a higher level. And again, more education, more knowledge, higher skill level. You can provide a different level of care and it's suggested that the BSN level will have a huge impact in the quality of care of the patients that are served. And so, therefore again, we've got the research to back it up. And so, what we want to do, for me, my passion for caring for people and passion for nursing in general, is this is really going to help improve the quality of care of people in our country. And globally, as far as I'm concerned.
27:11 Ligia Popescu: Yeah. Can you give me just an idea of what evidence based practice looks like in the field and what kind of impact it can have?
27:22 Sue McBee: When we think about evidence based practice, what we're looking at is the science of nursing. What we're told as far as what we learn through research that's been effective in-patient care. We kind of mix that, if you will, with personal experiences. Between the two of those, your experience as you take care of patients day by day, you learn a lot of things that you can use that you notice that this worked for this patient so maybe the next patient, you'll try this strategy to help improve their situation or circumstance. When we talk about evidence based practice, we're looking at how we make decisions regarding patient care. That is the best information we have available through research and through our personal experiences as a nurse.
28:10 Ligia Popescu: Thank you. There are many options available for RNs looking to complete their BSN online. Can you give our audience an idea of the benefits of choosing to enroll in the program at Carson-Newman?
28:23 Sue McBee: I can tell you from experience, and again we're new in this market. We just started our program just a few years ago, so we're still tweaking, trying to make it the best program we can make. At Carson-Newman we do have high standards. If you were someone who lived in our area and you talk to people that are employers or just even some of the community people, they'll tell you Carson-Newman has one of the best nursing programs around. Well, we feel like we do and a lot of that has to do with the quality of graduates that we have. And again, we're looking at trying to help ADN nurses become BSN nurses in their knowledge and skill level. And our standards are high. I think that they'll find out as we begin to market more and a lot of our online nurses come in to work that they're going to see that this is different maybe than some other programs. These people actually are practicing at a higher level. That's what we certainly hope for. Some programs are not going to be as rigorous as we are, but you're also not going to get the education. I just think that you should get what you pay for. I think for the nursing profession that we owe it to our patients to really practice at that high level. And that again, basically is going to be at least the BSN level.
29:43 Ligia Popescu: Right. I know that Carson-Newman has a very transfer friendly policy and that the 30 credits are awarded toward their BSN for their RN education. Students are allowed to transfer in credits and actually a total of 90 credits max, which is a huge benefit. I wanted to just bring up the accreditation that you went through and the fact that you were given, that the program was given a 10-year accreditation when you were only seeking a five-year accreditation. Is that right? Can you give us some background on that process?
30:29 Sue McBee: We are accredited by the American Association of College of Nursing, and what we call CCNE, which is really that arm of coming and looking at all of our data that we have on our program to make determinations on if we are a quality program and if we should receive accreditation. That's since I've been here and I don't think even before that's ever been a problem, because we really tend to excel in that area. But again, it's because of our standards. Our standards are high, and we really try to put together a really strong program and produce really strong graduates of our program. And our SACS accreditation is from Southern Association of Black colleges and Universities. And again, we haven't had any kind of issues from a nursing perspective at all relative to our accreditation.
31:21 Sue McBee: And I know the Tennessee board of nursing, they come from time to time, and there're always just a lot of accolades about how well we do our program. And I think we have back up from that, again, in the community with the types of nursing students that go into the work arena as nurses. They're just a little different in some ways. We get a lot of really good students that come through here, and then there are a lot of people who there's a lot of changes, go as far as their thought processes and how you treat people. And, again, servant leadership is part of our mission statement. And we want to really educate people to go out and help make the world a better place. That's what we encourage our students to do, in how they provide care to people.
32:07 Ligia Popescu: Thank you, so your faculty I know is very, very critical to making the program a success. Can you confirm the faculty to student ratio? Is it 14 to one or 11 to one?
32:21 Sue McBee: Okay, that, we are... It depends on where you're talking about, in the classroom or in the clinical area, but we do have compared to most schools, and especially big or major universities, our teacher to student ratio is... We have a lot of individual work that we can do with our students, in clinical and online. Now online, we're probably going to have 20 is what we're looking at for each group. And again, we're still firming up the things to try to make our program the best it can be. And I think that's always an ongoing process. You mentioned a while ago about the credits that people can get, and I'm working on a template right now for experiential learning credit. Looking at some things that maybe supervisors of some of the students could generate information that says, this person could take some college credit 'cause they've done this, this, and this, and their experience or education in the hospitals, they have education activities for people. And so, we're looking at experiential credit. We're looking at a lot of things to give people credit for what they know.
33:28 Ligia Popescu: Thank you. Can you touch upon the importance of earning your BSN from a Christian based school? There are some RN programs out there that of course, are not associated with a Christian background. I just wanted to ask you to let our audience know what you personally think is the benefit of that.
33:52 Sue McBee: Well again, I think it goes back to, and this is what I tell my students when we go into some of the, like yesterday, we worked at the foot clinic and then at CARM, which is a homeless population. We did foot care for homeless folks who get very limited resources and have a lot of bad feet, I'll just tell you, out there, but for a short period of time, we showed value to those folks and respected them for who they are as an individual human being. We teach a lot of things that are relative to valuing, what I call, valuing the essence of a person. Every person from our spiritual perspective is somebody who's loved by God. And so, we want to love and encourage that person regardless of the circumstances they may find themselves in. And again, going to CARM, we try to help people find resources that have just very limited resources or really don't understand how to access resources to put them in a better state of health. And again, we look at it from a very holistic viewpoint, like social, cultural, spiritual. We look at all those attributes of a person, and then again, we try to listen to what they have to say, we respect them, and we teach this. We teach, this is how you treat people.
35:11 Sue McBee: There are some people who are not going to, when you develop your plans of care, they're not going to be compliant, and you'll have to deal with that on an individual basis. What we find is, the more caring we are with folks in the community, the more they feel valued and the more they begin to listen and they realize, "Somebody cares about me, maybe I should care about myself sometimes." I tell students, regardless if you're a Christian or not, obviously we're a Christian institution, the attributes that Christ showed to people are attributes that we should be showing people regardless if we have a faith or not. These are just how you treat people and how you care for people. We talk about those things. We have a lot of ethical inclusion in most of our classes, as far as that's concerned. Do no harm, do good for people.
36:02 Sue McBee: Fidelity, being faithful to what you promised somebody. Veracity, telling the truth. We really incorporate a lot of those ethical principles and then again, the spiritual components of just, again, we want servant leaders that are worldwide. That have an excellent education and are able to go out and make a difference.
36:30 Ligia Popescu: Thank you. Now, some of you may already know there are many benefits to earning your degree online but the benefits vary depending on the program you choose. At this point I'd like to turn it over to Student Success Advisor, Amy Skelton to give us an idea of the type of support that online students can expect while in the program.
36:50 Amy Skelton: Thanks Lig. Students will have a Student Success Advisor that will assist them with their degree plan and guide them through course selection and course load. They'll work with the students from their initial enrollment through graduation. The Student Success Advisor is going to be the main point of contact for the students and will be their liaison to all the other departments. During their first call, the Student Success Advisor will discuss the student's transcript's evaluation and assist them with getting registered for courses. Then on the first day of classes, the Student Success Advisor will schedule a call where they'll go over and guide them through the online learning platform and the course.
37:30 Amy Skelton: Students should expect to be in continuous contact with their Student Success Advisor as they will be an essential part of their support team throughout their educational journey with Carson-Newman, monitoring their academic progress and assisting them with registration. In the online courses, students will interact with their professors and the other students in the class. This will allow them to add those essential contacts to their career network. Additionally, the online courses and resources are available to the students, 24 hours a day as long as they have internet access.
38:03 Ligia Popescu: Thank you. I know and there's also, faculty support, in particular, the faculty is there to guide students through the community practicum project and any academic advising questions or academic related questions and of course, Amy is here to help facilitate getting answers for those that need be. So, Sue, I know that the online program is a fairly new program. I think it launched in 2014. Can you share some of the feedback you've received from graduates?
38:47 Sue McBee: One of the things that I've noticed from some of our early graduates from this program are they are people, they are nurses of faith if you will, and so they really appreciate. It really kind of supports and strengthens even their own faith journey. Because of some of the things that are included in our course work and how we challenge them from, again, a holistic model which includes the spiritual component and so they're just really, they seem to be very happy about the standards that we hold and I believe they, one in particular had mentioned to me that they had talked to several other students from online BSN programs and even when some of them graduated they said, "You know, we really didn't learn anything. There wasn't anything different." And that just really concerns me and I don't, I just can't imagine that anybody on our online programs, there'll be things that they know and they've experienced and so maybe they have already achieved that particular knowledge level but I just can't imagine there's not a lot of learning that takes place through our program and I think that's respected by the students we've had who graduated from the program.
40:00 Ligia Popescu: Thank you. I've personally spoken with Laurie Williams and Scott Warden who are recent graduates of the program and I was really impressed with what they had to say about the faculty and especially you in particular and you have made a huge difference in their lives and I will be featuring them in a future upcoming webinar so stay tuned for that. I wanted to just mention that the foot washing clinic that you talked about was something that Scott had mentioned and he was really moved by the experience and he expressed that it was this clinical experience where you would go out into the homeless community and wash feet, inspect feet, treat them and give them a new pair of shoes and he found it to be a phenomenal experience. Do you have any other examples of those types of clinical experiences from online students?
41:03 Sue McBee: What we do, we also go to a place here, our local students do and for our online students, what I would do is work with them or whoever is going to be their community instructor, would work with them to look in their own community and see where these same kinds... You're going to find all these kinds of areas of people that are in need in any given town or any given rural area. You're going to find it and so what we do, we do have students, we'll look at several different opportunities. Here we do have the foot clinic and again there's that intimacy there that you have with that client for that brief period of time that you're taking care of their feet. It's just, it changes you, it does. It's a great experience for our students.
41:45 Sue McBee: We go to one of the homeless shelters and we actually work with individual people there. We just go up to them and say, "Hey, I'm a nursing student at Carson-Newman, I'd like to talk to you about your health today," and just yesterday, again we were there. After the foot clinic and I had a student, a fellow, his blood pressure was elevated and he was having some symptoms and he had been told he couldn't see the doctor for a week or whatever and so we got information from him, the student made the call, and he was taken care of. So, we look for resources to help folks that are struggling again in the culture of poverty with a lot of health issues. And anyone who's studied about the people that are in culture of poverty realize they have a lot more health issues than the general public does as a matter of fact, and these are some of the same people that a lot of these folks that are in our online nursing program will see in their hospital units as well.
42:39 Sue McBee: We do look out... Angel Ministry is another example; poor people are at families in crisis. They don't have basic needs, so they come in, we do a health risk appraisal on those folks, our students do, and again we try to connect them with some of the healthcare possibilities in their area and then we provide them with things like food, hygiene products, clothing and even furniture for some of these folks. Again, we've partnered with a lot of different ministries to help people that are under served.
43:14 Ligia Popescu: Thank you. At this point, I'd like to turn it over to our enrollment advisor, Riley Sellers. Some of you will recognize her voice. She's going to go over the admissions requirements and the important dates and deadlines to keep in mind before you apply.
43:30 Riley Sellers: Thanks, Lig, again. I'm Riley Sellers. I'm the enrollment advisor here for Carson-Newman's online, Bachelors of Science in Nursing. Our online classes are going to start January 15th. We are currently accepting applications for it. The admissions process itself is quite painless. The first step is to go through an interview with myself. After that, you complete the free online application and send in your official transcripts from all your previous colleges. We do require at least a 2.75 GPA from your previous college. After we have the collection of documents we submit you for acceptance, and then from there we pass you over to Amy, your student success coach, to work with her throughout the rest of your time in school.
44:14 Ligia Popescu: What's the application fee?
44:15 Riley Sellers: It is free.
44:16 Ligia Popescu: Nice.
44:18 Riley Sellers: If before applying if a student is concerned about transfer credits you're more than welcome to email me your unofficial transcripts. I'd be happy to have a complimentary evaluation done for you.
44:31 Ligia Popescu: Thank you. On your screen you can see that we are currently accepting applications for the January and February term next year. The enrollment deadline is January 8th, the application deadline is much sooner so please reach out to Riley to talk to her about getting started with your application. Now we've reached the Q and A portion of the program, and our first question is, what is a typical online class like? Sue, can you help answer that?
45:11 Sue McBee: Your typical online class. I don't know if you'd call it typical or not I think it's probably more atypical 'cause each faculty that teaches a particular course is an expert in that area. And so, they will focus on how they choose to get the student the opportunities to develop the knowledge and skill for that course. For example, I know our group that's in right now are going to move to health assessment in a week or so for their next online class. I just talked with that professor, she's taught it several times, she's been a full-time faculty here, and she uses some virtual labs that are relative to helping students learn more about communication, and we think we know a lot about it but then you get into scenarios and you find out, “Oh my goodness, I should've asked this. I should've said that.”
46:01 Sue McBee: We see that even with our patient care. But just to help to build that confidence in communication and also looking at specific health issues as we do the assessment and come up with what the problems are with the client and what we need to share with the physician or other nurses as we give reports and that kind of thing, to try to, again to overcome some of the deficits that the client has through our nursing interventions. I know that she also, in that particular course, will at the end after everybody's gone through all the different systems and really gone in depth on their health assessment information, then they actually will do a complete assessment and she will give them some kind of case scenario and it's expected that they will know what particular assessment skills are necessary for that client and the depth of the BSN level of actually acquiring the information that you need through your assessments skills.
46:58 Sue McBee: Community again, that's what I teach. I know that it is different than health assessment because their focus is going to be on that community population and I try to get students to realize the movement from that individual patient or patients in the hospital, to population groups out in the community and sub-groups we call aggregates that have a lot of health issues. And so, we focus a lot on that and taking care of those folks. Each class is a little bit different. Like I say the typical thing is they're online, but how the faculty goes about helping the student gain the knowledge and skill during that five-week course for most of our courses, community health and the other clinical course I mentioned, Professional Synthesis, actually is 10 weeks. And that really helps our working students have more time to get the clinical component in, along with what is online that we teach.
47:53 Sue McBee: So, they're all a little bit different but they're definitely online and again we will help students make determinations when it comes to the clinical component on how to get the hours that are required and the experiences that are necessary for them to really get a grasp of the concepts that we've offered through that class.
48:11 Ligia Popescu: Thank you. We're running, we're running close on time. I just have, there's one more question. How does the tuition for your program compare with others?
48:23 Sue McBee: Well, you know, that's interesting and I really haven't researched much outside of Tennessee at this point because most of our students, we've had from some Kentucky, some from different parts, well I've got one California right now, but we are very competitive with other programs. I looked and we were like in the lower of the pack, I think I looked at 10 maybe different online programs and there were a couple people that were less expensive than us. I think overall, they actually weren't because they required more hours but every school is different but we're very competitive, I can tell you that based on... But that we wanted, that was intentional.